DIA already conducting domestic intelligence gathering

Now we find out why they released information about the Marine who was passing information to the Philippines.

Congress would like the public to believe that the Defense Intelligence Agency is "going" to get authorized to conduct domestic surveillance.

No surprise: They're already doing it.

Here's the DIA public registry of their internet activities.

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The timing of these public releases is the same non-sense we saw just after 9-11: Shake up the country, get the legislators to sign a blank check, and then create a wall to accountability for the abuses.

You want to live in a country like that? Move to Iraq.

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The Supreme Court has already signaled it will find the bill constitutional.

The bill will do the following:

Recruit informants without disclosing connection to DoD/DIA

Use US Citizen databases

Exempt from some FOIA requests

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This is laughable:

"We're not trying to do investigations of people inside the United States," he said. "What we're trying to do is follow leads about terrorist activities."

Anyone who walks through the DIA door agrees to be put under investigation.

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Bolton confirms Echelon is already used to monitor Americans. It's referred to as data sharing between NRO and JTTF, called "investigative leads."

The trick is this: They'll find information through Echelon that people couldn't possibly think exists, then use that illegally obtained information to direct the law enforcement to "anonymous tips," which are actually provided by Echelon officers.

Flush the constitution after you wipe yourself with it, Hans.

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DIA argues that they need to have this access for "terror" investigations. OK, I'll bite: Why are we also providing funds to the CIA-FBI to do this; wasn't the "breaking down the wall bullshit-argument" supposed to solve this problem?

It's clear that the FBI-CIA alliances hasn't produced the results, so DoD is now being brought in.

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Why not save us all the confusion and simply burn the constitution now so we can get on with what this really is: A police state arrogantly likes to invade other countries, despite no popular support, legal foundation, or budgets to support those adventures.

America doesn't follow the Geneva Conventions, going so far as to require "special legislation" specifically prohibiting torture. Strange, the existing statutes clearly said not to do that.

So why should we believe "rules prohibiting DoD from engaging in domestic terrorism, harassment, and surveillance" of protestors [people exercising their rights] will be followed? Get real.

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What's more absurd is that DIA claims it needs to tap into information from people traveling overseas.

Well, we already heard that excuse to justify setting up Echelon, but Sibel Edmonds shows us NSA and DoJ-FBI can't seem to cooperate.

Why are we creating but another mechanism to blow off additional information that NSA, FBI, and CIA are unable to glean?

I know the answer: The US can't achieve results overseas, so let's abuse Americans. If only the US was as serious about civil liberties at home as it claims as it is abroad. [More . . . ]

DoD has yet to demonstrate it can professionally interact with those who dare call them on their non-sense for Able Danger and Iraqi contract fraud; why should we believe that DoD is going to be able to handle reports of other misconduct and abuse by NRO, DIA, or domestic intelligence gathering with JTTF?

These idiots don't use the information they currently have; why are we giving them "more access" to more information that they currently can't manage.

Their current software systems don't work; and their employees have yet to credible demonstrate they can report information from the FBI I-drive.

All this is going to do is create "more confusion" that a crappy contractor is going to get on their knees and claim, "Oh, DoD we can solve your problem. . . . please give us more money so we can give you a crappy system, just like we gave one to DoJ."

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The designation "any United States person" means that people who are "not part of the US government" could be targeted.

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Read this bullshit which sounds like the same crap we heard about the unconstitutional Patriot Act,

"We've tried to write in these protections so this will be used only in limited circumstances where we can't do it any other way."

Well, find a way, you jackass. We have a constitution, not a blank check to turn this land into Eastern European police states.

Oh, I get it: "We won the Cold War, and the Nazis we assimilated into the American government want a new playground to sew the seeds of fascism."

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They want FOIA exemptions to hide transcripts related to abusing witnesses and informants in US cities.

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Get this, more of the "wasting time, energy and manpower"-excuse we hear from pieces of shit bureaucrats who are too lazy to respond to reasonable inquiries, or honestly provide answers to simple questions.

They say that when they want to shift needed attention from their malfeasance and make a scapegoat out of someone who dares notices reality: They're morons.

If they can't do something simple like respond to a simple inquiry, why should we believe them when it comes down to more important issues like internal investigations, compliance with the statutes, or veracity before the court where the stakes are higher? Give me a flipping break!

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And now we find out the "benefits" of the 9-11 Patriot Act:

allow U.S. intelligence agencies to have access to data collected about U.S. residents by other government agencies and covered by the Privacy Act.

More of that data-mining you heard from Choice Point.

How many JTTF goons are going to use that information to intimidate those who dare speak out about unlawful US policies? They've already lied in Nebraska about their FBI credentials; and even before the court of law they lie, fabricating video evidence.

Why should we believe a "secret organization" is going to police themselves?

If they're "doing the honest thing," why are they misrepresenting themselves as "FBI agents"?

"Oh, sometimes you have to go around the law . . ." says the "big leader" who "knows better." Hey, shit for brains: You want to cross the line, then feel free to keep walking to Iraq.

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Here's the big clue: DIA and FBI are full of idiots. They refuse to take information when you hand it to them on a plate.

Why are we giving them power to "secretly get information" that is already publicly available, and they refuse to review, and have not demonstrated they can manage that information?

Wake up: We've got problems from 9-11 that haven't been resolved; why are we giving them more power to avoid needed oversight into accountability before Congress?

The Inspector Generals are just lackeys of PNAC.

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What are you going to do with all the "big information" you collect? Launch more invasions of countries without adequate planning?

It's self-evident despite "all the information" you morons can't get your heads together and implement a credible plan to achieve your objectives.

Those objectives are yours because they are unlawful, and still being investigated by the Grand Jury.

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A police state is when the information is gathered, not to preserve the constitution, but to advance the interests of the state: Avoid accountability, engage in lawlessness, and then blame those you're "supposed to serve."

Hello, Michael Brown, FEMA, and DHS.

This government can't translate information into constitutional plans and results, so it is using that information as the "excuse" to justify more incompetence, non-sense appropriations, and lawlessness.

This is a cancer that continues to feed off itself.

"Don't have enough money for domestic relief, let the locals fend for themselves" in Louisiana.

Why are we paying the government to "fight for freedom" overseas, but then leave Americans who really need that help literally blowing in the Gulf Coast wind?